It got me thinking. I'm not one of those people that would write somebody off for their pop culture tastes. I wouldn't dump a guy because he hated Dolly Parton (though I would seriously consider it...). I wouldn't ditch a friend because they like the TV show Reba or The Bachelor/ette. But I am one of those people that could build a friendship on similar tastes.
I wouldn't defriend you because of your tastes, but I might befriend you because of your tastes. When I meet someone new at a get-together or a party, and we soon find out we have a similar pop culture interest (or interests), that can become a good icebreaker. That can get the conversation going. Discussing the medical bills we've accumulated due to the heart attacks caused by Breaking Bad can be a great way to start a friendship. If I find someone that says High Fidelity is one of their favorite movies/books, then they have my attention. Finding a shared love of Rocky Votolato results in album reviews (and our preferential ranking of the albums) and concert stories, which leads to discussions of other bands that toured with Rocky, and on it goes until you get married (ok, maybe that's a stretch).
And while not everyone that has similar tastes end up being a good match for you -- I've met assholes that like Elliott Smith and annoying people that like David Sedaris -- at least it's a good starting point to see if there's potential.
This piece also got me thinking about my own personal relationship. Luckily, Eagan and I have very similar pop culture tastes. I don't find myself having to compromise and go see Transformers 2 in the theatre because he really wants to (because he doesn't). I don't have to fill my ears with cotton balls because he's listening to Kid Rock in the other room (because he isn't). We pretty much like the same music, movies, TV shows, etc. But that's not to say we have all the same likes. We have our differences -- luckily we don't have disagreements over them or anything. We might give the other a hard time, in jest, but that's about it. It more results in a situation where when one is not around, the other will watch the movie they know the other wouldn't want to see. Or when we're in the car together and something comes up on my ipod that Eagan doesn't like, he just changes the song (and I don't mind). Here are some of our differences:
Musicals. I like musicals. I'm not one of those people that love all things musicals and have seen every single musical. Far from it. But I did watch a lot of musical movies when I was growing up (some of my favorite movies as a little kid were Grease, Sound of Music, and the Wizard of Oz). My aunt is a choir director and singer and she exposed me to a lot of different musicals when we would visit her. Furthermore, I took piano lessons when I was a kid and my teacher would often assign me sheet music from musicals and I fell in love with some of the songs (songs from Les Miserables are really coming to mind). Since I grew up with musicals and was exposed to them by an aunt I was very fond of, I have a special place in my heart for them. Eagan didn't really grow up with the same exposure.
Also, Eagan is opposed to the idea of musicals. I'm not turned off by actors suddenly breaking out into song and dance -- I actually like that -- but that's a deal breaker for him. I get super excited when Sound of Music is on TV, while Eagan groans. This also translates into my love for the TV show Glee, which is not Eagan's thing. He agrees the show is funny and has smart writing, but the singing and dancing does him in (which is pretty much the whole show).
Speaking of dancing, I love So You Think You Can Dance. Like with a passion. Eagan doesn't care for it.
Another reality show I like that Eagan doesn't watch is The Biggest Loser. Eagan thinks it's funny/cute how much that show makes me cry (it seems like just about every episode makes me cry. Once Jillian corners them outside the gym to talk about their feelings, look out tear ducts!). Though one thing is for sure, Eagan loves the theme song! He does a really funny over-the-top impersonation of that terrible song ("What have you done today to make you feel proud...").
Another reality show is Survivor. Although he doesn't watch that show, he pretty much watches it because I say stuff to him like, "Oh my god, you will not believe what just happened on Survivor!!" and then I proceed to describe the whole hour of the show. So although he doesn't watch a single episode, he knows who's still in the game, what strategies they've played, and who I want to win. Like he knew Russell didn't deserve to win because he doesn't have a good social game -- and that's a huge part of winning Survivor (!).
Eagan pretty much doesn't watch reality shows. Luckily for him, the above shows are pretty much the only ones I watch. The other reality shows I watch, Eagan actually watches with me and likes -- Kathy Griffin: My Life on the D-List, Top Chef, and Project Runway (though the past 2 seasons were kind of boring and we didn't really watch consistently).
Another point of departure is 80s movie (some would say 80s girl movies). For example, Dirty Dancing and John Hughes's Molly Ringwald Trifecta (Breakfast Club, Sixteen Candles, Pretty in Pink). I could watch that shit over and over and over again, much to Eagan's dismay. I think Eagan would admit these are decent movies and that there are some merits -- but these aren't movies he loves to watch or would watch on his own accord. Although I did in fact convince him to go with me and a friend to see the 20th Anniversary screening of Dirty Dancing in the theatre! But I think he was more going for the interesting/crazy experience than for the movie itself.
And then there's the sentimental-crying-movies-about-women. Eagan actually doesn't mind these as much -- he acknowledges that Steel Magnolias, Beaches, Terms of Endearment, Boys on the Side, etc. are good movies (though, some more than others). But, like the 80s movies, these aren't movies he's dying to watch (no pun intended!!!). As for me, I cannot tell you how many times I've seen these movies. Especially Steel Magnolias. I first saw it when I was about 4 (I saw it at my Southern aunt's house) and I've loved it ever since. I pretty much have the dialogue from that movie memorized. Despite the number of times I see these movies, they always get me. I'm drenched in tears by the end of the film. I cry until it hurts ("It hurts! The bee stings!" -- That's another good crying movie).
Speaking of Steel Magnolias, I have a deep love for Dolly Parton. I've loved Dolly ever since I was a little girl. Both of my parents love Dolly's music, so I grew up listening to Dolly records. One of my favorite records as a kid was Trio -- a supergroup, if you will, consisting of Dolly Parton, Emmylou Harris, and Linda Ronstadt. My parents loved all three singers, and often played their records, so I grew up listening to and loving all three. So when those three came together? Daaammn. Listening to Dolly music was a huge part of my childhood.
In addition, me and my siblings pretty much watched anything Dolly was in. We absolutely loved Steel Magnolias, Smoky Mountain Christmas (that's another one of those movies that I've seen so many times that I've lost track), 9 to 5, and Straight Talk. I even remember loving this Dolly Parton TV special where she went to Hawaii. Dolly could do no wrong. Unfortunately, Eagan doesn't share that same love for Dolly. I think I just have to live with the fact that very few people share the same deep love I have for Dolly.
And then on the other side, there are certain things Eagan enjoys that I don't care for as much. For example, there are certain sci-fi or horror movies that Eagan admits look terrible, and he would never see them in a theatre or rent them (in other words, wouldn't pay to see them)...but if they're on TV one lazy Saturday, he'll watch them. Now I've never seen these movies, so I can't say for sure -- they could actually be amazing (...) -- but they look pretty bad in my opinion. I'm talking about movies like 13 Ghosts (oh, I meant, Thir13en Ghosts. My bad.), Resident Evil, The Core, 28 Weeks Later (I did like 28 Days Later). These are definitely not his top movie choices -- it's more like one of those situations where you find yourself at the end of the moving saying "wow, I actually watched that whole thing." I don't find myself doing that too much. I usually watch with a purpose. If I stumble upon a movie on TV and I watch it, it's actually one I've seen before and like -- like 40 Year Old Virgin or Knocked Up, which TBS seems to play all the time. So we differ in our levels of tolerability when it comes to those so-bad-they're-almost-good-no-actually-they're-not-good-at-all sci-fi and horror movies on TV.
Another thing we don't have in common is Star Trek: The Next Generation. Eagan liked the show as a kid, but it seems like his love for TNG really started to blossom in college. A philosophy professor of his played an episode in class to discuss the issue of cyborgs and humanity (I think?). Anyway, after that, Eagan realized the show had some smart writing. Then his love really took off in grad school. Some channel, maybe Spike, seemed to play TNG episodes all day, every day. He would turn on the TV when he took a break from stressful grad school work and the show was always on. And then he was hooked. I would be in the other room working on something and I would hear the faint hum of the TNG theme song playing in the other room, and I would say jokingly, "Eagan! What did I catch you doing?!" When I go out of town, Eagan puts TNG episodes at the top of our Netflix queue.
The other day I read Eagan a comment I saw online, one person said something like "Let's start a nerd fight. Fact: The Millennium Falcon is a better ship than the Starship Enterprise." And Eagan quickly retorted with disgust, "NO WAY!!" and proceeded to go into the technical specifics of why the Starship Enterprise was better. I got very concerned, while at the same time being very impressed. He concluded his argument with something along the lines of: "I'm not saying the Enterprise is better than the Millennium Falcon, just that in a direct fight the Enterprise would win. I have no doubt the MF would be better for smuggling, running a blockade, or any number of tasks. But the crew of the Enterprise is in the thousands, whereas the crew for the MF would be less than ten, maximum. "
I've never really seen a whole episode of TNG. I think it's because TV shows set in space just don't seem to pique my interest (haha. Great answer!). I wouldn't say sci-fi/fantasy is Eagan's favorite genre, but I think he has more appreciation for it than I do. I do like some sci-fi/fantasy stuff, I just tend to not give that genre much of a chance ('What? It's in space? Takes place in the future? Has futuristic weapons? No, thanks.'). For example, I love the Star Wars movies, but didn't see any of the movies until I was almost in college -- because I never gave it a chance. In fact, my family even owned a copy of Star Wars: A New Hope. My brother checked out that movie from our local library in Connecticut, then my family misplaced it like they always do, and then we moved to Utah. Then when we were unpacking the boxes in Utah, there it was. So we had "Star Wars: A New Hope (Property of the North Haven Public Library)" in our collection for years and years, and yet I still never saw it. So could it be that I would like TNG if I gave it a chance? Possibly. But, then again, it does takes place in space...



























If I start watching Reba, I not only give you permission, but request that you end our friendship... or at the very least threaten to do so.
ReplyDeleteThe second R rated movie I ever watched (the first was rocky horror, but I was unaware of the rating at the time, so I only partially count it) was I Know What You Did Last Summer at Eagan's house. The third: Scream. Also at Eagan's. I hold him responsible for my guilty pleasure of bad horror flicks.
What the crap is going on with Project Runway? The first season it was on lifetime was so boring I haven't watched since. And I miss it... and by "it" I mostly mean Tim Gunn.
I know few couples whose interests and disinterests would be entertaining to read about. Well done. :)
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First of all, thanks for reading my incredibly long post! I was writing parts of this post over a couple of days and added stuff here and there. When I finally finished I was like "holy shit! this is so long!" And I thought no one would actually read it. So I'm glad someone did! And thanks for the nice words. I'm glad you liked the post.
ReplyDeleteSecond, I actually have two friends that watched Reba in grad school (and watched it together). I think they acknowledge it's terrible, so I guess that redeems them?? But I don't know why they still watched it... Haha. I watched part of an episode with them once and it was HORRIBLE. As you have given me permission, if you start watching Reba, I will end our friendship. Well, I'd hold an intervention first.
Third, I never knew about you seeing those movies for the first time at Eagan's. Eagan really did corrupt a lot of Mormon lives in Logan. Haha!
Finally, I totally agree with you about Project Runway sucking since moving to Lifetime. Tim Gunn is the best part of the show, but not even he could save that show. For me, Season 2 has been the overall best season.
I love this blog post! I'm so happy that we share so much of the same taste in movies, music, TV, etc. And I mean, I understand that different people are raised in different ways and have different tastes and all, but... okay not really, I don't understand it. How do children grow up without being exposed to Dirty Dancing, Grease, Steel Magnolias, or Dolly Parton?! Do they know they are walking around with gaping holes inside of them from lack of exposure to awesome forms of media?! I just can't imagine.
ReplyDeleteEverything that you like that Eagan doesn't, I like, too. So You Think You Can Dance? Love it. Drew and I used to have a cooking night on Wednesday nights so I could teach him to cook while watching dancing. Luke came along for the meal, but doesn't like the show at all.
ReplyDeleteAll those tear-jerker movies focused on women? Love them (Boys on the Side?! I have the soundtrack and get all teary-eyed every time Whoopi's singing "You Got It." Every fucking time). Also, I'm way into sentimental cry-y movies about family relationships. Give me a nice parent/child heart-to-heart, and I'll be happy for hours.
-Those John Hughes movies? Check.
-Biggest Loser? I cry almost every episode I watch.
-Dolly Parton? Yes.
But I'm with Eagan on The Next Generation. That shit is GOOD.
Holly - I agree, kids that didn't have our entertainment upbringing are seriously missing out. No child should reach school age without having seen Steel Magnolias first. Haha.
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I remember how excited I was to first learn that you also like SYTYCD and Biggest Loser. I don't find too many people that like both. And I love you for it.
I love that you have the Boys on the Side soundtrack!!!! I'm totally jealous. Early to mid 90s women music? Sign me up! Oh and good call with Whoopi's rendition of "You Got It". That part of the movie absolutely crushes me and I'm sobbing like a baby (hello, she dies at the end of the song. Who could NOT cry while listening to that song?!). Whoopi did a really good job with that version -- she made a not-sad-at-all song unbelievably sad. And then when I hear Roy Orbison's original version I just think "Oh my god, why is this song so fast and upbeat?! Have you no respect for someone dying of HIV, ROY!?!" When Whoopi changes the lyrics from "Every time I hold you I begin to understand, everything about you tells me I'm your man" to "...tells me I'm your best friend." -- I don't know why, but that parts always makes me cry. It's just so sweet.
Speaking of parent/child movies, have you seen Terms of Endearment? If not, you need to. And have a big box of tissues ready.
As for TNG, like I said, it could be awesome. I don't think TNG is a bad show...it's just a show I don't happen to watch. If you and Eagan both like it, it obviously has to be good. Does that mean I'll start watching it? Probably not. I have way too many shows to watch as is. And I get too much pleasure saying, "Eagan?! What did I catch you doing?" when I hear the theme music start playing.
*Woops, I meant to say Mary Louise Parker's character died from AIDS, not HIV
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